Social Contract: Universal Guiding Principles – Me2B (3/4)
Social Contract: Universal Guiding Principles
Thursday 13B
Convener: Lisa LeVasseur & Richard Whitt
Notes-taker(s): Lisa LeVasseur & Andrew Hughes
Tags for the session - technology discussed/ideas considered:
Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:
1. Notes received from Lisa LeVasseur:
- John Locke quote: from The Two Treatises of Civil Government
- This is a moment in history when a lot of thought went into government – what it is, to take over what a monarch/despot used to do.
- We are in a new place here. We were in a new place when print came along.
- The social contract we have – that needs to apply online. It doesn’t.
- Other side of this spectrum is Thomas Hobbes.
- John Locke is the idealized nature of what it should be.
- The global view, has no shared understanding.
- Looking for a list of universal principles.
- Defend against approaching discussion from a single cultural viewpoint.
- Is there/should there be a set of universal principles
- Analyze the good in the world and model on that
- - If it exists in the world, it can become a law (Elinor Ostrom)
- - Focus on the positive reinforcement
- Do the 8 laws of ethically-designed AI.
- Universality is a western concept. There are other ways of seeing human identity. E.g. African view of I am, because you are.
- - One of the key IEEE EAD1e feedback, was this was very western. And there was an effort to get and incorporate this feedback.
- - The principles are very high level, you can still have disagreements on the details.
- We are in a battle about what the dominant narratives are for the future.
- China social contract – that was the birth of the Chinese nation.
- - 400 BC reforms of sheng yang led to foundation of China 222BC
- - Everyone is in a group of 5 able bodied men. If someone did something bad, you all got punished, if someone did good they all got credit and benefit.
- - Defend the smallest social unit of responsibility + ingrained in. Feeling of safety in group rather than the individual.
- - Mai Lin, shared the Chinese model, it’s an accountability model. It’s completely non-tech.
- Is this technology itself the. Problem?
- - Need a slow food movement for tech
- - What are the embedded moral foundations that are at the root of the “bad”
- - E.g. productization, monetization
- - Tech is simply our current framing. This is not simply tech.
- Has the tech caused a disconnect between the action and the harm?
- - What is the right kind of accountability that needs to reemerge?
- The nature of the digital world is fundamentally different from the natural world. Suddenly nature is changing at this (fashion) speed. We are in a completely different field.
- Agile is cultivation of sloppiness.
- What I see missing, different incentives. The incentive became a burden, and in that story it is about protecting the other 4. Can we find commonalities about aligning incentives?
- You could plug in, pick your favorite religion for the stating point of the discussion – we use social contract.
- In real life there is deternance, but we don’t have that online, and that’s a problem.
- What if you have a bot, that is programmed to do things, and it’s programmed to break the norms and it does some harm?
- Dan Ariely – Skin in the game book – when you have skin in the game it changes your behavior in the system.
- More foundations theory, feels male and legal… this bias might be due to my presenting of them (I’m male, western, legal).
Example Models
Ethically Aligned Design Principles: IEEE EAD1e
- Human Rights
- Wellbeing
- Data Agency
- Effectiveness
- Transparency
- Accountability
- Awareness of Misuse
- Competence
Social/Institutional Constraints on behavior
- It looks like there is a filter at each level?
- Is that filter thing true?
- Is there one principle that guides us in the selection of this filter?
- There is interaction between the layers
- These are layers of abstraction
Moral Foundation Theory
These are the dimensions we care about. Good/Bad. What does it mean to do these things online?
- Care/Harm
- Fairness/Cheating
- Loyalty/Betrayal
- You expect the website you are trusting will not screw you
- Authority/Subversion (Golden Rule)
- Don’t hack, don’t spread malware
- Sanctity/Degradation
- There will be religions (open source, android), there are things that are sacred.
- Translate this into respect
- + Liberty/Oppression
- Open source vs non-open source
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Go and read the actual theory.
Bring your own perspective to the discussion.
What we’re missing here, is
- We’re all talking about technology
- We want them to succeed
- Technology itself is a problem, and needs to be stuffed back in the box, by slowing it down.
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2: Photos received from Andrew Hughes:
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