Kiva SSI BIOMETRICS and HOW YOU CAN HELP!

Kiva SSI Biometrics & How You Can Help!

Session: 12A

Convener: Cam Parra

Notes-taker(s): Cam Parra

Tags for the session - technology discussed/ideas considered:

Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:

Since presenting and taking notes can be difficult these will be very limited and open to my opinion.

Kiva presented their project and their work in Sierra Leone. The architecture of the project was shown and discussed.

The floor was then open to the audience for various questions :

What can we improve?

This question then evolved on how in general biometric systems can be improved. Suggestions of multiple biometrics to use for Kivas system. Also how it is bad to keep raw fingerprint data.

Quick point was made that authentication should not be done with fingerprints to be real SSI.

A huge point was made that we should work on a minimum governance model for biometrics and SSI in developing nations.

Here is the Zoom Chat:

15:30:28 From Nathan George : Are there any fingerprint template standards or processing algorithms that would help move forward without risking a re-enrollment scenario?

15:31:43 From Asem Othman : There is a standard yes, but the risk of re-enrollment will be always there… this is the biometric

15:31:51 From Nathan George : heh

15:32:10 From Nathan George : Any pointers or homework assignments you can give me to help teach folks to be less-wrong?

15:34:47 From Asem Othman : Regarding fingerprint ? Or general biometric?

15:35:04 From Nathan George : Fingerprint templates and avoiding motion of raw scans

15:35:25 From Nathan George : And generic biometrics too, though we will be relying on things at an open source spec-driven level

15:35:42 From Nathan George : So specific business articles or device supplier approaches aren’t as helpful

15:36:08 From cam-parra : Or scientific articles would be good

15:37:29 From Iain Barclay : I’m working with U of Notre Dame, my colleague is iris expert, and planning to release some open source algo’s at some stage. We’re going to figure out how to integrate into SSI for a pilot we have, over the summer

15:38:43 From cam-parra : Iain that is awesome ! Keep us updated

15:39:31 From Iain Barclay : Will do!

15:47:48 From Nathan George : Iain, that sounds very cool. We are looking for additional factors that we can make available. If you have an open source implementation, we should talk.

15:49:14 From Asem Othman : http://egovstandards.gov.in/sites/default/files/Fingerprint%20Image%20Data%20Standard%20Ver1.0.pdf

15:50:02 From Juan Caballero : I wish that statement were less controversial, Nathan!

15:50:10 From Nathan George : Juan++

15:52:16 From Nathan George : Asem++

15:56:53 From Nathan George : So a labelled trusted third party

15:57:05 From Juan Caballero : i'd love to see it, john

15:57:26 From Juan Caballero : not just because I've been to many human rights museums in Perú :D

16:03:10 From Juan Caballero : fpir

16:04:56 From John Callahan : @Juan: if you have experience in Peru and are interested in the project, please talk to rpimplaskar@veriidumid.com (Rajiv)

16:05:11 From Juan Caballero : Cool!

16:10:32 From Juan Caballero : http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-designed-a-smart-toilet-with-butt-recognition-technology-2020-4?r=DE&IR=T

16:10:47 From Juan Caballero : smart toilets are going to be the new FBI cel phone charging station at DefCon

16:13:51 From Nathan George : T-2 minutes, so don’t worry we can’t leave too much more awkward silence to guilt anyone into participation

16:17:32 From Nathan George : What are the rules and who agreed to follow those