11L/ The Thoughtful Biometrics (un)Conference coming in January - Sharing Ideas

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The Thoughtful Biometrics (un)Conference Coming in January - Sharing Ideas Thoughtful Biometrics Conference


Wednesday 11L

Convener: Kaliya Young, John “Jack” Callahan, Asem Othman

Notes-taker(s): Kaliya Young


Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:


We talked about the vision we have for the Thoughtful Biometrics (un)Conference.

January 2021

Solving the problems.

Sharing 101 learning.

MITRE people could they show up? Chris Buchanan asked to what affect?

Matriculate the ideas and concepts - via all of the biometric related people - who work with governments

Have to “win over” the MITRE engineers.

Daniel Bachenheimer - see what we are doing here in this space similar to what ICAO has done for their digital document (ePassport credential).

What are the biometric images / standards ?

What are the IAL requirements involved?

What are applications of pseudonymous biometric technology? (i.e., identify someone in a population) - see Doddington Zoo references in the literature

How do we handle morphing?

Some of it is use-case driven similar place to ICAO


Images and templates


When including biometric identifiers in credentials as a Verifiable Claim (e.g., an ICAO ePassport) we should consider:

What mode(s) is (are) required, versus optional

Photo capture process (e.g., live or not; professional or amateur), glasses (or not), quality (quality algo used)

Identity Assurance Level (e.g., NIST 800-63-3)

Format: Image, template (incl templ algo), hash (incl hash algo)

Images are not dependant on proprietary templates or hashes and typically out-perform standardized templates

Informed Consent: biometrics are considered sensitive personal data per GDPR and should be handled accordingly. When shored through informed consent, how will the info be used, by whom, for how long, etc.


George Fletcher - What problem(s) are we trying to solve.

Let’s enumerate use -cases already being used.

Todd Gerhke - id2020 work with iRespond in Bangladesh

Jeff Kennedy - Kiva work in Sierra Leone with single digit fingerprint

Chris B. - MITRE - new Social Justice team with interest in biometrics

John “Jack” C - new DIF Biometrics SIG

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