101 Session - SSI and Decentralized Identity

Introduction to SSI & Decentralized Identity (101 Session)

Tuesday 4B

Convener: Karyl Fowler & Juan Caballero

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Presenters’ deck: http://docs.google.com/presentation/d/129rEI4sHrEGufw5AyihEbnysCBbHlSFk/edit#slide=id.p1

Zoom Session Video Link (Provided by Karyl Fowler): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBa-lN5PnKI&feature=youtu.be

Zoom chat:

From Karyl to Everyone: 10:56 PM http://docs.google.com/presentation/d/129rEI4sHrEGufw5AyihEbnysCBbHlSFk/edit#slide=id.p1

From Vittorio Bertocci to Everyone: 11:00 PM +1 on slack]

From Derick Grey to Everyone: 11:01 PM I'm not on slack, how do I get an invite?

From Vittorio Bertocci to Everyone: 11:01 PM http://join.slack.com/t/iiw/shared_invite/zt-e08ieit0-7~iZLzYJBIuaD6CG55YH7w

From Ramnath Krishnamurthi to Everyone: 11:01 PM yes i am not on slack either

From Vittorio Bertocci to Everyone: 11:01 PM See above for the invite ^

From nembal to Everyone: 11:01 PM want to record?

From Stew Whitman to Everyone: 11:02 PM Slack channel http://iiw.slack.com/archives/C0132P23EL9

From Tushar Phondge to Everyone: 11:02 PM Will this session be recorded? Great!

From timcappalli to Everyone: 11:03 PM I don’t think it’s recording. There’s usually a little overlay

From Stephen Curran to Everyone: 11:04 PM There is no host, so no way to record.

From Me to Everyone: 11:05 PM http://iiw.slack.com/archives/C0132P23EL9

From Stephen Curran to Everyone: 11:16 PM Hmmm...Hotmail. One of these things is not like the others :-)

From Vittorio Bertocci to Everyone: 11:18 PM Obligatory “OAuth is not an identity protocol” :P

From Me to Everyone: 11:20 PM ^ Take it up with Heather :D

From Vittorio Bertocci to Everyone: 11:20 PM Nevermind ;)

From Kayode Ezike to Everyone: 11:28 PM @KarynHarrison to address your question, I recall the notion of Rubrics broached at RWoT 9: http://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot9-prague/blob/master/topics-and-advance-readings/rubrics.md

From KathrynHarrison to Everyone: 11:28 PM Ooh thank you!!

From Me to Everyone: 11:30 PM yup! I believe there's a newer version of that rubric in the w3c did core spec appendices

and an even newer version that's not public yet still being peer-reviewed in a google doc

but like I said, it really only rates DID:Methods by the degree of decentralization achieves at different layers of the protocol, infrastructure, and IP a strong ideological commitment to decentralization (and open standards procedure generally) make the issue of "certification" (i.e., these X methods are approved by this public institution) a very tricky one...

From Ramnath Krishnamurthi to Everyone: 11:31 PM will you be sharing this presentation?

From Karyl to Everyone: 11:33 PM Presenters’ deck: http://docs.google.com/presentation/d/129rEI4sHrEGufw5AyihEbnysCBbHlSFk/edit#slide=id.p1

From Stephen Curran to Everyone: 11:34 PM For VCs, the blockchain/ledger allows the verifier to prove the presented data without going back to the issuer.

From Grace Rachmany to Everyone: 11:38 PM As far as I know, most of the programs with refugees are not using SSI in a significant way, but are using centralized databases, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

From Stephen Curran to Everyone: 11:38 PM Pretty sure that's right, Grace.

From Darrell to Everyone: 11:39 PM Grace - agreed. However iRespond is using SSI in a refugee camp in Thailand.

From Me to Everyone: 11:45 PM Two specialists to talk to about these things are Balázs Nemethi (Taqanu) and Dakota Gruener (ID2020) (both are here at IIW this year and keep tabs on all the refugee programs)

From Darrell to Everyone: 11:45 PM @Juan agreed - ID2020 is supporting iRespond.

From Me to Everyone: 11:46 PM Also I believe someone from Kiva is here

From Darrell to Everyone: 11:46 PM Several are - Matt Davie is. Nathan George was just hired on by Kiva as well.

From Me to Everyone: 11:49 PM oh wait Balázs is here-- in this zoom! hehe

From Hadeel Elbitar to Everyone: 11:53 PM For someone who is hearing about this for the first time, what's the main take away you want us to have? :)

From Tushar Phondge to Everyone: 11:56 PM I heard that SSI can solve “Password Problems”. How can I find more on that? I have read about DID-AUTH is that something used to address Authentication and Password problem?

From Me to Everyone: 11:57 PM ^ Indeed, there is a DIDAuth working group in DIF!

From Grace Rachmany to Everyone: 11:57 PM For now, what I've seen is it's making the problem worse with private keys that can't be recovered if the participant loses their keys

From Me to Everyone: 11:57 PM there are many authentication demos in the demo hour-- check out Oliver Terbu's demo of the new Ethereum Wallet Connect system, and eSatus' Indy wallet

From Derick Grey to Everyone: 11:58 PM If I want to start on a new company that could integrate with SSI platforms, how do I make sure I am following credential standards and collaborate without also losing my IP to larger players?

From Tushar Phondge to Everyone: 11:58 PM Great! Thanks

From Me to Everyone: 11:58 PM Derick - join DIF :D

From Derick Grey to Everyone: 11:58 PM Digital Identify Foundation is what I'm assuming DIF means? :)

From Me to Everyone: 11:58 PM yesh

From Dee Platero to Everyone: 11:59 PM @Juan, Thanks for sharing!

From Derick Grey to Everyone: 12:00 AM Thank you Juan!

From Me to Everyone: 12:03 AM This goes all the way to the top! The whole C-Level needs to change!

From Ramnath Krishnamurthi to Everyone: 12:03 AM i second Juan’s comment on the C level mentality

From Darrell to Everyone: 12:05 AM @Juan - lemme know how well that works! :-D

Dinner time - later folks - keep being awesome

From Me to Everyone: 12:05 AM Thanks! --> Domilabs.io

From Dee Platero to Everyone: 12:05 AM Bye Darrell! Thanks for your comments

From Me to Everyone: 12:05 AM btw for people curious about creditworthiness self-verification

From Stew Whitman to Everyone: 12:06 AM G2G, Thanks all, see you tomorrow.

From Me to Everyone: 12:07 AM "Superfriends"

we used to call it

Encrypted Data Vault (EDV)

also crucial to medical record reform (Adrian Gropper's Trustee/HIE-of-one project)