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Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T17:11:28Z

=JeffH: fixed a bug

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==Papers==

Roughly in chronological order...

'''Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer'''
BETH SIMONE NOVECK
Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 9, Winter 2003
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=432120

'''HABERMAS@DISCOURSE.NET: TOWARD A CRITICAL THEORY OF CYBERSPACE'''
A. Michael Froomkin
Harvard Law Review, Vol. 116, #3, Jan-2003
(Beth Noveck recommended this paper to me)
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/discourse/ils.pdf

'''Who's in Charge of Who I Am? Identity and Law Online'''
SUSAN P. CRAWFORD
Cardozo Law School
New York Law School Law Review, Vol. 49, p. 211, 2004
Cardozo Legal Studies Research Paper No. 130
(also appears in "State Of Play")
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=796844

'''Society’s Software'''
by Beth S. Noveck and David R. Johnson
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-9
Fordham Law Review, Vol. 74, p. 101, November 2005
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/article.ihtml?pubID=500&id=1980
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=835884

'''A Democracy of Groups'''
Beth Simone Noveck, FM volume 10, number 11 (November 2005),
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_11/noveck/

'''“Peer to Patent”: A Proposal for Community Peer Review of Patents'''
Beth Simone Noveck
Harv. JL & Tech., 2006
http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/SICoP/SWIM/PeerToPatent-BethNoveck.pdf
http://www.peertopatent.org/

'''Social Software, Groups, and Law'''
MICHAEL J. MADISON
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
Michigan State Law Review, Vol. 2006, p. 153, 2006
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=786404

'''The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds'''
By J. M. Balkin, Beth Simone Noveck
Published 2006, NYU Press
http://books.google.com/books?id=SZCeEyu5i9oC&dq=state+of+play&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0

'''TRADEMARK LAW AND THE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TRUST: CREATING THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR ONLINE IDENTITY'''
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-10
Washington University Law Quarterly, Vol. 83, May 2006
http://law.wustl.edu/WULR/83-6/p1733Noveckbookpages.pdf

'''Wikipedia and the Future of Legal Education'''
Beth Simone Noveck
JOURNAL OF LEGAL EDUCATION, 2007
http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/noveck_jrnl_legal_ed_mar07.pdf

'''Through a Glass Darkly: Information Technology Design, Identity Verification, and Knowledge Contribution in Online Communities'''
Meng Ma, Ritu Agarwal
Information Systems Research
Vol. 18, No. 1, March 2007, pp. 42–67
http://katzis.org/wiki/images/2/21/Ma_2007.pdf

'''In the Virtual Shadow of the Law: The Chimerical Study of Law and Social Software'''
Huang, Anne. DRAFT (2008?)
http://isp.law.yale.edu/files/folders/172/download.aspx

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

==see also...==

google: "Noveck" "Society s Software"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Noveck%22+%22Society+s+Software%22

gscholar: noveck "online identity" trademark
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=noveck+%22online+identity%22+trademark&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

gscholar: "bs noveck" <recent>
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22bs+noveck%22+&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

gscholar: "online identity" "social norms"
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22online+identity%22+%22social+norms%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

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Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T17:10:24Z

=JeffH:

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==Papers==

Roughly in chronological order...

'''Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer'''
BETH SIMONE NOVECK
Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 9, Winter 2003
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=432120

'''HABERMAS@DISCOURSE.NET: TOWARD A CRITICAL THEORY OF CYBERSPACE'''
A. Michael Froomkin
Harvard Law Review, Vol. 116, #3, Jan-2003
(Beth Noveck recommended this paper to me)
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/discourse/ils.pdf

'''Who's in Charge of Who I Am? Identity and Law Online'''
SUSAN P. CRAWFORD
Cardozo Law School
New York Law School Law Review, Vol. 49, p. 211, 2004
Cardozo Legal Studies Research Paper No. 130
(also appears in "State Of Play")
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=796844

'''Society’s Software'''
by Beth S. Noveck and David R. Johnson
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-9
Fordham Law Review, Vol. 74, p. 101, November 2005
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/article.ihtml?pubID=500&id=1980
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=835884

'''A Democracy of Groups'''
Beth Simone Noveck, FM volume 10, number 11 (November 2005),
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_11/noveck/

'''“Peer to Patent”: A Proposal for Community Peer Review of Patents'''
Beth Simone Noveck
Harv. JL & Tech., 2006
http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/SICoP/SWIM/PeerToPatent-BethNoveck.pdf
http://www.peertopatent.org/

'''Social Software, Groups, and Law'''
MICHAEL J. MADISON
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
Michigan State Law Review, Vol. 2006, p. 153, 2006
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=786404

'''The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds'''
By J. M. Balkin, Beth Simone Noveck
Published 2006, NYU Press
http://books.google.com/books?id=SZCeEyu5i9oC&dq=state+of+play&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0

'''TRADEMARK LAW AND THE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TRUST: CREATING THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR ONLINE IDENTITY'''
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-10
Washington University Law Quarterly, Vol. 83, May 2006
http://law.wustl.edu/WULR/83-6/p1733Noveckbookpages.pdf

'''Wikipedia and the Future of Legal Education'''
Beth Simone Noveck
JOURNAL OF LEGAL EDUCATION, 2007
http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/noveck_jrnl_legal_ed_mar07.pdf

'''Through a Glass Darkly: Information Technology Design, Identity Verification, and Knowledge Contribution in Online Communities'''
Meng Ma, Ritu Agarwal
Information Systems Research
Vol. 18, No. 1, March 2007, pp. 42–67
http://katzis.org/wiki/images/2/21/Ma_2007.pdf

'''In the Virtual Shadow of the Law: The Chimerical Study of Law and Social Software'''
Huang, Anne. DRAFT (2008?)
http://isp.law.yale.edu/files/folders/172/download.aspx

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

==see also...==

google: "Noveck" "Society s Software"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Noveck%22+%22Society+s+Software%22

gscholar: noveck "online identity" trademark
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=noveck+%22online+identity%22+trademark&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

gscholar: "bs noveck" <recent>
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22bs+noveck%22+&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

gscholar: "online identity" "social norms"
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22online+identity%22+%22social+norms%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

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Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T17:03:49Z

=JeffH: added links to Legal_IIW

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

==Papers==

Roughly in chronological order...

Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer
BETH SIMONE NOVECK
Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 9, Winter 2003
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=432120

HABERMAS@DISCOURSE.NET: TOWARD A CRITICAL THEORY OF CYBERSPACE
A. Michael Froomkin
Harvard Law Review, Vol. 116, #3, Jan-2003
(Beth Noveck recommended this paper to me)
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/discourse/ils.pdf

Who's in Charge of Who I Am? Identity and Law Online
SUSAN P. CRAWFORD
Cardozo Law School
New York Law School Law Review, Vol. 49, p. 211, 2004
Cardozo Legal Studies Research Paper No. 130
(also appears in "State Of Play")
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=796844

Society’s Software
by Beth S. Noveck and David R. Johnson
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-9
Fordham Law Review, Vol. 74, p. 101, November 2005
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/article.ihtml?pubID=500&id=1980
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=835884

A Democracy of Groups
Beth Simone Noveck, FM volume 10, number 11 (November 2005),
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_11/noveck/

“Peer to Patent”: A Proposal for Community Peer Review of Patents
Beth Simone Noveck
Harv. JL & Tech., 2006
http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/SICoP/SWIM/PeerToPatent-BethNoveck.pdf
http://www.peertopatent.org/

Social Software, Groups, and Law
MICHAEL J. MADISON
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
Michigan State Law Review, Vol. 2006, p. 153, 2006
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=786404

The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds
By J. M. Balkin, Beth Simone Noveck
Published 2006, NYU Press
http://books.google.com/books?id=SZCeEyu5i9oC&dq=state+of+play&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0

TRADEMARK LAW AND THE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TRUST: CREATING THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR ONLINE IDENTITY
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-10
Washington University Law Quarterly, Vol. 83, May 2006
http://law.wustl.edu/WULR/83-6/p1733Noveckbookpages.pdf

Wikipedia and the Future of Legal Education
Beth Simone Noveck
JOURNAL OF LEGAL EDUCATION, 2007
http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/noveck_jrnl_legal_ed_mar07.pdf

Through a Glass Darkly: Information Technology Design, Identity Verification, and Knowledge Contribution in Online Communities
Meng Ma, Ritu Agarwal
Information Systems Research
Vol. 18, No. 1, March 2007, pp. 42–67
http://katzis.org/wiki/images/2/21/Ma_2007.pdf

In the Virtual Shadow of the Law: The Chimerical Study of Law and Social Software
Huang, Anne. DRAFT (2008?)
http://isp.law.yale.edu/files/folders/172/download.aspx

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

==see also...==

google: "Noveck" "Society s Software"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Noveck%22+%22Society+s+Software%22

gscholar: noveck "online identity" trademark
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=noveck+%22online+identity%22+trademark&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

gscholar: "bs noveck" <recent>
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22bs+noveck%22+&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

gscholar: "online identity" "social norms"
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22online+identity%22+%22social+norms%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

[ back to [[Legal_IIW]] ]

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Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T17:02:52Z

=JeffH: /* Papers */

Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T16:58:25Z

=JeffH: /* Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity */

==Papers==

Roughly in chronological order...

Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer
BETH SIMONE NOVECK
Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 9, Winter 2003
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=432120

HABERMAS@DISCOURSE.NET: TOWARD A CRITICAL THEORY OF CYBERSPACE
A. Michael Froomkin
Harvard Law Review, Vol. 116, #3, Jan-2003
(Beth Noveck recommended this paper to me)
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/discourse/ils.pdf

Who's in Charge of Who I Am? Identity and Law Online
SUSAN P. CRAWFORD
Cardozo Law School
New York Law School Law Review, Vol. 49, p. 211, 2004
Cardozo Legal Studies Research Paper No. 130
(also appears in "State Of Play")
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=796844

Society’s Software
by Beth S. Noveck and David R. Johnson
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-9
Fordham Law Review, Vol. 74, p. 101, November 2005
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/article.ihtml?pubID=500&id=1980
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=835884

A Democracy of Groups
Beth Simone Noveck, FM volume 10, number 11 (November 2005),
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_11/noveck/

“Peer to Patent”: A Proposal for Community Peer Review of Patents
Beth Simone Noveck
Harv. JL & Tech., 2006
http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/SICoP/SWIM/PeerToPatent-BethNoveck.pdf
http://www.peertopatent.org/

Social Software, Groups, and Law
MICHAEL J. MADISON
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
Michigan State Law Review, Vol. 2006, p. 153, 2006
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=786404

The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds
By J. M. Balkin, Beth Simone Noveck
Published 2006, NYU Press
http://books.google.com/books?id=SZCeEyu5i9oC&dq=state+of+play&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0

TRADEMARK LAW AND THE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TRUST: CREATING THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR ONLINE IDENTITY
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-10
Washington University Law Quarterly, Vol. 83, May 2006
http://law.wustl.edu/WULR/83-6/p1733Noveckbookpages.pdf

Wikipedia and the Future of Legal Education
Beth Simone Noveck
JOURNAL OF LEGAL EDUCATION, 2007
http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/noveck_jrnl_legal_ed_mar07.pdf

Through a Glass Darkly: Information Technology Design, Identity Verification, and Knowledge Contribution in Online Communities
Meng Ma, Ritu Agarwal
Information Systems Research
Vol. 18, No. 1, March 2007, pp. 42–67
http://katzis.org/wiki/images/2/21/Ma_2007.pdf

In the Virtual Shadow of the Law: The Chimerical Study of Law and Social Software
Huang, Anne. DRAFT (2008?)
http://isp.law.yale.edu/files/folders/172/download.aspx

==see also...==

google: "Noveck" "Society s Software"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Noveck%22+%22Society+s+Software%22

gscholar: noveck "online identity" trademark
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=noveck+%22online+identity%22+trademark&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

gscholar: "bs noveck" <recent>
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22bs+noveck%22+&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

gscholar: "online identity" "social norms"
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22online+identity%22+%22social+norms%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

2008-06-17T16:57:02Z

=JeffH: New page: =Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity= Roughly in chronological order... Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer BETH SIMONE NOVECK Journal...

=Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity=

Roughly in chronological order...

Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace: The Role of the Cyber-Lawyer
BETH SIMONE NOVECK
Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 9, Winter 2003
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=432120

HABERMAS@DISCOURSE.NET: TOWARD A CRITICAL THEORY OF CYBERSPACE
A. Michael Froomkin
Harvard Law Review, Vol. 116, #3, Jan-2003
(Beth Noveck recommended this paper to me)
http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/discourse/ils.pdf

Who's in Charge of Who I Am? Identity and Law Online
SUSAN P. CRAWFORD
Cardozo Law School
New York Law School Law Review, Vol. 49, p. 211, 2004
Cardozo Legal Studies Research Paper No. 130
(also appears in "State Of Play")
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=796844

Society’s Software
by Beth S. Noveck and David R. Johnson
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-9
Fordham Law Review, Vol. 74, p. 101, November 2005
http://law.fordham.edu/publications/article.ihtml?pubID=500&id=1980
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=835884

A Democracy of Groups
Beth Simone Noveck, FM volume 10, number 11 (November 2005),
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_11/noveck/

“Peer to Patent”: A Proposal for Community Peer Review of Patents
Beth Simone Noveck
Harv. JL & Tech., 2006
http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/SICoP/SWIM/PeerToPatent-BethNoveck.pdf
http://www.peertopatent.org/

Social Software, Groups, and Law
MICHAEL J. MADISON
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
Michigan State Law Review, Vol. 2006, p. 153, 2006
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=786404

The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds
By J. M. Balkin, Beth Simone Noveck
Published 2006, NYU Press
http://books.google.com/books?id=SZCeEyu5i9oC&dq=state+of+play&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0

TRADEMARK LAW AND THE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF TRUST: CREATING THE LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR ONLINE IDENTITY
NYLS Legal Studies Research Paper No. 05/06-10
Washington University Law Quarterly, Vol. 83, May 2006
http://law.wustl.edu/WULR/83-6/p1733Noveckbookpages.pdf

Wikipedia and the Future of Legal Education
Beth Simone Noveck
JOURNAL OF LEGAL EDUCATION, 2007
http://www.nyls.edu/pdfs/noveck_jrnl_legal_ed_mar07.pdf

Through a Glass Darkly: Information Technology Design, Identity Verification, and Knowledge Contribution in Online Communities
Meng Ma, Ritu Agarwal
Information Systems Research
Vol. 18, No. 1, March 2007, pp. 42–67
http://katzis.org/wiki/images/2/21/Ma_2007.pdf

In the Virtual Shadow of the Law: The Chimerical Study of Law and Social Software
Huang, Anne. DRAFT (2008?)
http://isp.law.yale.edu/files/folders/172/download.aspx

==see also...==

google: "Noveck" "Society s Software"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Noveck%22+%22Society+s+Software%22

gscholar: noveck "online identity" trademark
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=noveck+%22online+identity%22+trademark&hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

gscholar: "bs noveck" <recent>
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22bs+noveck%22+&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

gscholar: "online identity" "social norms"
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22online+identity%22+%22social+norms%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&scoring=r&as_ylo=2003

Legal IIW

2008-06-17T16:55:48Z

=JeffH: /* CALL PREP/COMMENTS */

== NOTES ==

1. We need a clear problem statement - what goals are we trying to achieve?

2. We need point people on the tech side and on the legal side to recruit participants.

3. We need a structure which provides legal folks a framework which allows them to attend (e.g. one which gives them continuing education credit).

4. We need both international and multidisciplinary representation from the legal community, as the concerns differ across geographies and specialties.

5. There should be 1 North American and 1 European venue. Top North America candidates are the Bay area, the D.C. area, and the Boston area.

== Attendees ==
* Peter Nixey, Clickpass,
* Eli Edwards, SCU School of Law,
* Lucy Lynch, Internet Society,
* Kermit Smelson,
* Gabe Wachob,
* Hiroki Itoh, NTT,
* Phil Wolff, dataportability.org,
* Nika Jones, OUNO,
* Bob Snodgrass, n2c,
* Nick Givotovsky, ,
* Jeff Hodges, Neustar,
* Judi,
* Dave Kearns,
* Mike Macintosh, Xpollen,
* Dazza Greenwood, Civics.com,
* Bob Blakley, Burton Group,

==CALL PREP/COMMENTS ==

THURSDAY June 19th at 10AM PDT
* CALL IN NUMBER: 1 (906) 481-2100
* access code: 942276

A few of us worked on an draft about an event - we did this in March well before the meeting at IIW - it is just meant to be informational. [[Legal IIW Early Draft]]

We hope to move forward on the action items coming out of the meeting in May and define what needs to happen based on the group participating to make it happen.

==For Further Reading==

Here are some pointers to papers on legal aspects of online identity that =JeffH has collected:

[[Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity]]

Iiw2007b

2007-12-16T02:58:40Z

=JeffH: addded dates of occurance

Welcome to the wiki for the 5th Internet Identity Workshop, "2007b", held at the Computer History Museum on December 3-5, 2007 in Mountain View, California.

==Registration==
[http://www.windley.com/events/iiw2007b/register.shtml Register online]

==Schedule==
* [[Monday Outline]]
* [[Tuesday Schedule]]
* [[Wednesday Schedule]]

==About the Conference==

* [[Who is Attending]]
* [[Topics]]
* [[Design Team]]
* [[Volunteers]]
* [https://pibb.com/go/iiw2007 Pibb Back Channel]
* [http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/310069/ Event on Upcoming]

==Press==
[http://www.windley.com/events/iiw2007b/announcement Original Announcement]

Tuesday Schedule

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Please note, this schedule is subject to change; the canonical version of the schedule appears on the big paper grid on the wall. [back to [[Iiw2007b]] main page]
{|border="1"
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|[[Room A]]
|[[Room B]]
|[[Room C]]
|[[Room D]]
|[[Room E]]
|[[Room F]]
|[[Room G]]
|[[Room H]]
|[[Room I]]
|[[Room J]]
|[[Room K]]
|[[Room L]]
|[[Room M]]
|-
|9:15 - 10:15
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|[[OSIS Tutorial]]
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|[[VRM 101]]
|[[OpenLife Bits]]
|[[Dynamic Federation]]
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|[[Implementing OpenID and OAuth]]
|-
|10:15 - 11:15
|[[Ubiquitous Computing]]
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|[[UI Best Practices for OpenID RPs]]
|[[VRM Standards Gap]]
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|[[Landscape 2008]]
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|[[OpenID Security & Privacy]]
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|11:30 - 12:30
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|[[Who Wants To Be A Billionare]]
|[[Information Cards Intro]]
|[[Intro to OAuth]]
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|[[Trusted Data Exchange | Trusted Data Exchange & RP Reputation (=nat)]]
|[[Real Identity]]
|[[Identity Architecture, RM-ODP]]
|[[OpenID Tutorial]]
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|-
|1:30 - 2:30
|[[OSIS Interop]]
|[[OSIS Interop]]
|[[IdP Trust and Reputation]]
|[[Connectivity from the Edge]]
|[[Higgins Tutorial]]
|[[OAuth Extensions]]
|[[Reliable Identities for Relying Parties]]
|[[Who's Who]]
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|[[OpenID Foundation]]
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|-
|2:45 - 3:45
|[[OSIS Interop]]
|[[OSIS Interop]]
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|[[Identity Commons 101]]
|[[Open Reputation Management Systems]]
|[[OAuth and OpenID]]
|[[Deployment Challenges]]
|[[Limited Liability Personas]]
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|4:00 - 5:00
|[[OSIS Interop]]
|[[OSIS Interop]]
|[[Understandable Usability]]
|[[Identity Commons Resources]]
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|[[Non-browser OpenID and OAuth]]
|[[What IIW Means to Enterprise]]
|[[Second Life Residents Supporting OpenID]]
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|}
== Closing of the Day 5-5:45 ==
This is in the circle where we started this morning.
''It will also include a special award presentation.''

== Reception following Close of conference ==
The Monte Carlo - 228 Castro St
Mountain View, CA 94041
== Dinner Tuesday 7pm ==

Dynamic Federation

2007-12-16T02:47:45Z

=JeffH: /* Dynamic Federation */ added link back to Tuesday Schedule

== Dynamic Federation ==
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Attendance: 15 or so

SAML-based federations have challenges scaling: IdP discovery, metadata discovery, protocol binding choice, trust establishment, key management, attribute and nameID usage

Many of these concerns apply in other technologies too, eg Infocard

Can we replicate the scalability of OpenID? Or at least as much of it as required by the SAML-interested community

PingID proposal re: dynamic federation: [http://blog.pingidentity.com/blog/ctotalk/2007/11/27/Dynamic-Federation-Under-the-Covers Dynamic Federation Under the Covers]

How can we simplify IdP discovery?

Metadata and trust problems: getting metadata is one thing, deciding it is trustworthy is another

User shows up at RP, types in email, RP makes decision to dynamically federate?

Can you do ad-hoc without contracts?

Do we need to cover all OpenID use cases, or just a subset for success?

Not full scale ad-hoc; more ease of deployment

Can we avoid "email exchange of all the goo"

Shibboleth- reliance on SAML metadata
* publish separately at each site
* peer entity key directly in metadata, use that key directly for SAML assertion validation

How deep into PKI do we need to go?
* for metadata exchange, some as needed
* for SAML protocol, none

Where is this going- submission to OASIS TC; profile with x features
* incorporate some of SAML core spec into one document?

If you don't follow the trust chain, how do you prevent spoofing?

How do you trust what is in the metadata?

Sign metadata by trust vendor (ie verisign) or assessor

Separate run-time concerns

What is trust- different levels

LOA concerns: a site may not be able to self-assert all its site data, eg the level of assurance it has been certified to operate at

Still a role for federation operator to certify metadata

Can IdP Metada signing be done during transaction by third party?

Trusted reputation broker could either sign before, or during transaction

Must have revocation lists; how often do you check? Caching?

SAML allows pseudonimity, and can help prevent collusion- how does this operate in this space? Does use of email for IdP discovery make other privacy protection moot?

Should the discovery element be separable from the rest of the dynamic federation processes?

Trusting 3rd party identity providers is hard.

How do we make this understandable by the average consumer?

Should privacy be enabled through best practice (throw away data used for discovery after discovery), or should it be baked in?

SP should set an IdP specific cookie to simplify returning use.

France Telecom starting effort in Liberty Alliance to standardize IdP discovery- want an industry standard; this should be synced with DF effort

What about attributes? Should the profile say: no attributes? or "can send, but no guarantee of handling at SP"? or "must accept and understand"?

Are we simply allowing easier IdP discovery, or synchronizing account linkage once discovered?

Starting point: IdP and SP don't know each other. Implies no existing accounts to link to

What is the persistent identifier? Email? Persistent ID? Pick one of these 3?

XRI as alternative discovery mechanism- same challenge as DDNS (lack of deployment)?

Reuse iname infrastructure? Simple profile for SAML endpoints?

Rather than retrieving SAML metadata, retrieve XRDS file? Permits SP to be multi-protocol

Should you chain the metadata docs, or fall back from XRDS to SAML metadata if no XRDS found?

Probably will need to have multiple ways to find things.

Discussion will move to OASIS SSTC list "soon"