Me2B – Have YOU Changed Activity Because Unethical Data Company? (1/4)

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Me2B – Have YOU Changed Activity Because Unethical Data Company? (1/4) (a/k/a: “It’s Not Going To Hurt, Right?)


Thursday 12B

Convener: Andrew Hughes

Notes-taker(s): Heather Vescent & Andrew Hughes


Tags for the session - technology discussed/ideas considered:


Discussion notes, key understandings, outstanding questions, observations, and, if appropriate to this discussion: action items, next steps:


1. Notes received from Heather Vescent:


What behavior have you changed due to/stories about ourselves


How our behavior has changed

  • Fear of being noticed and targeted
  • Apathy
  • Self-censor/curate
  • Avoid unknown connections
  • Use specific throwaway contact accounts. (email)
  • More cautious about unexpected
  • Use inconvenient apps to change externally viewed profile (e.g. multiple browsers)
  • Leave social media. I quit FB 6 weeks ago. I found a lot of benefit, and I connected with people. But it took me a while to get to this point.
    • I watched my behavior of how often/time I would pick up my phone to kill time.
    • I knew it was bad, and they were bad actors. It took the criminal case.
    • I’m not going to do business with a company that is under a criminal investigation.
    • When you leave FB, you have a grace period of 30 days.
    • Recovery clarity results

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  • Do things behind the scenes
    • Anonymous
  • Direct choice to not share between apps
  • Advising/teaching community about how to determine trustworthiness
    • E.g. mouseover shows target HREF
  • Define “known good” actions for others using apps, e.g. insta likes
  • Teach community what physical world, protective actions in the online world.
  • Dr Michael Ridge – what we are not doing because of technologies.



  • An alternative to regulation and laws where people set the new social.
    • Can look at times of history when there were times of lawlessness. We’ve been in these situations before.
    • Justices of the peace emerged. English common law evolved from this. Local community mores.

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  • Browsers started to enforce HTTPS everywhere
    • Increased security visibility, but confusing to normal
    • I will not use certain browsers because they block those sites, automagically.
    • Different vehicles go different places with different efficacy
    • I install multiple browsers. I have five different browsers that I use.
    • HTTPS killed the archival web
    • (Google has taken the lead to do HTTPS there)
  • VPN
    • Certain apps say they can’t be accessed/or functionality is removed when using a VPN.
    • “VPN is too weak to engage with.”


Stories that we’ve heard about/from others

  • Asked to take down a picture because subject started getting threats
  • Women change behavior online (in particular)
  • Target of stalker chose to reset real identity and digital identity
    • Self-activated witness protection
  • The realization that tribalism becoming embedded. In normal interactions (politics) has caused a schism and self-segregation, e.g. avoid family events because of politics.
  • Killed FB account and started a new one.


The Medium is the massage. The technology is the rails in which we interact and behave.

Reality and posturing.

I’m in the trust business, I don’t trust the internet.

Eventually we will see regulatory discussion to reduce the public harm

The social norms are changing



What questions would you have asked for this session?

(Teach me how to do this discovery better?)

  • Ask for. Real experiences and stories, “being street smart”
  • Ask two different sets of questions for online and offline behavior/world to find contrast – to explore online disinhibition effect
  • Use mindfulness techniques and tools e.g. journals for people to practice new behavior/identify + document behavior in the moment.


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2. Notes/Photos received from Andrew Hughes:


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